10/06/2005

Bush will veto spending bill if torture is regulated

Bush has yet to veto a bill. He hasn't even really threatened a veto. Massive, pork-laden efforts of all kinds have sailed through under his pen. So what do you think incenses Bush enough to threaten using Presidential privilege to kill legislation? The thought of preventing torture by US troops.

Kudos to McCain, a torture victim himself, for sponsoring the bill. And here's something you won't often hear me say: Kudos to the Senate for tacking it on despite Shrub's unexplainable opposition. McCain explains something that should be self-evident to his Shrubness, but obviously isn't:

Many of my comrades were subjected to very cruel, very inhumane and degrading treatment, a few of them even unto death. But every one of us - every single one of us - knew and took great strength from the belief that we were different from our enemies.

5 Comments:

At 12:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Given that the article mentions where the rules for detention and interogation will be published

"It would also require all American troops to use only interrogation techniques authorized in a new Army field manual. It would not cover techniques used by the Central Intelligence Agency. "

Perhaps a review of the amendment http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:SP1977: v. the current Army field manual is in order http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm34-52.pdf.

Seems the army has not allowed torture for some time as the linked version is from 1992.

There where some specific departure from the manual authorised in 2003 http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/dod/d20040622doc9.pdf. again torture was never allowed.

But whatever the truth telling Times has to say is good enough to slam Bush.

Dave

 
At 12:28 PM, Blogger Jeff Huber said...

What's sad is that all the constitutional and treaty law needed to curb the torture is already on the books. 'Berto wrote Mister Bush a memo saying he didn't have to pay attention to any of that ornry old stuff.

 
At 12:43 PM, Blogger Luke Francl said...

All this law does is reaffirm that the US military does not mistreat or torture prisoners.

It's only what the military is supposed to follow anyway, as Jeff Huber and others have said.

That Bush would threaten to veto it is shameful.

 
At 1:22 PM, Blogger missbhavens said...

Yikes. All I have to contribute is "yikes". Vetoing this would be just so surreal...but it doesn't surprise me. Nothing does anymore.

 
At 12:07 PM, Blogger Jeff Huber said...

Luke,

To get even more specific, the Field Manual (and I'll grant you, it's a long time since I looked at it, but...)
is merely a specific experssion of what Our constitution and ratified treaties we have entered state (the constitution, by the way, declares that our treaties are "the law of the land.")

Jeff

 

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